[Rockhounds] New name for a Canadian town called Asbestos

[Doug Bank]

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or if you are being serious. They absolutely keep changing mineral names! 

Some of the minerals found in Talcville and Balmat in New York State are anthophyllite, tremolite and clino-suenoite. However, these minerals seem to change names frequently. At the very least, clino-seunoite used to be manganocummingtonite which used to be tirodite and which might be the same as parvowinchite.  Between 2010 and 2020, I think it changed names twice, which doesn’t help any of the labels in my collection. 

I’d say it was a PITA, but it is even worse, because there is no good way to differentiate between all these without doing a chemical analysis, and I can tell that the few specimens I did buy that have labels are not labelled correctly in the first place. 

I’m sure this is far from the only example of this kind of confusion. 

Doug


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Tim Fisher <nospam at orerockon.com> wrote:
> 
> At least they aren't renaming minerals like they rename lapidary rock. Or
> fossil species (my pet peeve, makes it pretty hard to find new sources when
> you don't even know if the name you're using is still "valid"). What a PITA!
> 
> Tim Fisher
> Http://OreRockOn.com 
> Email nospam at orerockon.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] On
> Behalf Of Alan Goldstein
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 5:12 PM
> To: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] New name for a Canadian town called Asbestos
> 
> I guess Radium Hot Springs in British Columbia will be next. Does this mean
> any mineral collected there after the town's name is changed will use
> Val-des-Sources?
> 
> On a related matter, the Minerva No. 1 mine in Cave in Rock, IL operated
> from about 1945 to the mid 1970s. It was reopened by Ozark-Mahoning in ~1987
> as the Ozark-Mahoning No. 1 mine. But specimens were still listed as being
> from the Minerva. Had this been accepted by collectors, it would be possible
> to date the specimens as being new or old. But I guess 25 years after the
> mine closed, it doesn't matter that much.
> 
> Alan G.
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
> 
> From: Kreigh Tomaszewski<mailto:kreigh at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 7:57 PM
> To: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem
> collectors<mailto:rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com>
> Subject: [Rockhounds] New name for a Canadian town called Asbestos
> 
> *The small Canadian town of Asbestos that decided it needed a rebrand has
> done away with the name derived from its mining heritage.*
> 
> The Quebec town, home to some 7,000 people, voted for "Val-des-Sources" as
> its new moniker.
> 
> The town was once the location of the world's largest asbestos mine.
> 
> It was given the English name for the mineral - rather than the French
> * amiante *- in the late 19th Century.
> 
> But the town's council said the connotation hindered its ability to attract
> foreign investment, and announced last November that the hunt was on for a
> new name.
> 
> The town, about 150 km (95 miles) east of Montreal, finally announced the
> winning title with some fanfare on Monday evening.
> 
> It was picked after a lengthy consultation and a vote by town residents,
> including those as young as 14.
> 
> About half the town residents eligible to cast ballots did so.
> Val-des-Sources won with just over 51% of the vote in the third round of
> voting.
> 
> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co
> m%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-54608836&data=04%7C01%7C%7C81e8c7d4709c492975
> 6208d8748abfba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C6373874865607951
> 31%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qLutUs7eWm7eiX2aBO7jfu8AUHC%2FBviMOqmr8MF
> bGlU%3D&reserved=0
> _______________________________________________
> Rockhounds mailing list
> Subscription Services:
> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frockhounds.
> drizzle.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frockhounds_rockhounds.drizzle.com&dat
> a=04%7C01%7C%7C81e8c7d4709c4929756208d8748abfba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa
> aaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637387486560795131%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAw
> MDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=t8hNmsTH
> UkIb26m8Ac1omqybvJDkiQM7IDVGRSsj1DI%3D&reserved=0
> List Usage Policy:
> https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftomaszewski
> .net%2FKreigh%2FRockhounds%2FRockhounds.shtml&data=04%7C01%7C%7C81e8c7d4
> 709c4929756208d8748abfba%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637387
> 486560795131%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=agNoY1cSlmxjN4SnUS4o0NWXxGXJgB7
> s0b3LkHmkafE%3D&reserved=0
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Rockhounds mailing list
> Subscription Services:
> http://rockhounds.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds_rockhounds.drizzle
> .com
> List Usage Policy: http://Tomaszewski.net/Kreigh/Rockhounds/Rockhounds.shtml
> _______________________________________________
> Rockhounds mailing list
> Subscription Services:  http://rockhounds.drizzle.com/mailman/listinfo/rockhounds_rockhounds.drizzle.com
> List Usage Policy: http://Tomaszewski.net/Kreigh/Rockhounds/Rockhounds.shtml