[Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.

Thu Apr 16 16:41:55 PDT 2020

h Fortran, my first real programming language, I used WATFIV tho and got
pretty good with JCL. I acquired a real dislike for punched cards tho even
tho I knew where the secret deck repair machines were...heh. (In the
basement of the Rathskeller).

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by
one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
Edmund Burke

J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:39 PM gary brown <gbrown at catspaw-minerals.com>
wrote:

> **same page**  Yup!
>
> One of the first big programs I wrote when I was at Control Data was a PWR
> simulator.  I converted an old Fortran-IV program to run in TUTOR on the
> PLATO system.  Interestingly enough, there is a PLATO emulator (see:
> cyber1.org) up and running and my old program is on it!  It's a hoot to
> see a <gasp> 40+ year old program still working.  Heck, it even survived
> Y2K.
>
> GcB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rockhounds <rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com> On Behalf Of
> J Bryan Kramer
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 10:13 AM
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> rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.
>
> >
> > You misconstrue my point.
> >>
> > Sorry Gary I was just commenting on the environmental impact
> > statements
> stupidity, not your comment. And of all the complaints that plant got over
> the years not one objected to having to breath Ra-226.
>
> I agree with your comments. My theory on why the environmental mob objects
> to nuke plants is this: back in the 1960's the nascent environmental
> movement merged with the insane "NO NUKES" mob to form the modern group.
> Thus that antinuke dogma was engraved on the shrunken heart of those
> people never to be removed by any logical argument.
>
> I was a reactor operator and health physics tech in the Navy by the way.
> While I was out of the USN in environmental engineering school I had a
> brush with the Sierra Club way of thinking and tactics. One of my Profs was
> a local leader. So I got a feel for the way they do things.
>
> BK
>
> “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by
> one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
> Edmund Burke
>
> J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:01 AM gary brown <gbrown at catspaw-minerals.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You misconstrue my point.  All I'm saying is that if there IS some
> > sort of limit on allowable radiation, as with nuke plants, then those
> > same restrictions should apply to coal plants.  In both cases the
> > radiation release is small.  With nukes, I'd venture (Watch me wave my
> > arms in the air!  Pulling numbers out of  the ether!) that the TOTAL
> > environmental impact based on mining disturbance and waste disposal is
> > a LOT smaller than with coal.  For example, the amount of land that
> > needs to be disturbed to produce 1 megawatt hour of electricity is
> smaller with nukes.
> >
> > GcB
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rockhounds <rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com> On Behalf
> > Of J Bryan Kramer
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:50 PM
> > To: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors
> > < rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.
> >
> > I recall reading the environmental impact statement for one of the
> > coal fired plants I worked at. And as you say they predicted something
> > like 1.2 'excess deaths' from the isotopes out the stack and not one
> > from the coal burning itself. Total BS of course since no one knows
> > what a few extra mrem will do to the average person. There are
> > competing theories. The one that claims there is no safe level of
> > radiation is silly hogwash. There is no toxin with no known safe level.
> > If yoiu worry about things like that try finding out what a chest
> > X-Ray dosage is or if you want to be really alarmed check out cat
> > scans. That info is rather hard to find and the guys giving you an
> > X-Ray are apparently trained to claim they don't know. At least I
> > never found one who would admit knowing the numbers.
> >
> > BK
> >
> > “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall
> > one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
> > Edmund Burke
> >
> > J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
> > photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:18 PM Tim Fisher <nospam at orerockon.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Now you tell me, I have scrounged around in abandoned coal mine
> > > dumps in WY for fossils lol.
> > >
> > > Tim Fisher
> > > Http://OreRockOn.com
> > > Email nospam at orerockon.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com]
> > > On Behalf Of gary brown
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:25 AM
> > > To: 'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem
> collectors'
> > > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.
> > >
> > > When people bitch and moan about nuclear plants I would always point
> > > out that coal plants that burned Wyoming (and other western) coal
> > > were release a LOT more nuclides into the air than nuclear power
> > > plants.  I can remember going out on field trips from SD Tech back
> > > in the early 70's seeing uranium salts intimately  associated with
> coal seams.
> > > Burn the coal and the nasty stuff goes right out the stack...even
> > > after scrubbing out most of the particulates.  Nuclear plants have
> > > really strict emission guidelines.
> > >
> > > GcB
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------From: Paul <etchplain at att.net> Date:
> > > 4/14/20  7:27 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Rockhound List
> > > <rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com> Subject: [Rockhounds] Uranium
> > > Mineralization of Fossil Wood. Mustoe, G.E., 2020. Uranium
> > > Mineralizationof Fossil Wood. Geosciences (Switzerland)
> > > 10(4):1-25
> > > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340609903_Uranium_Mineral
> > > ization_of_Fossil_Woodhttps://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/10/4/133Yours,P
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