[Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.

Thu Apr 16 14:37:36 PDT 2020

**same page**  Yup!

One of the first big programs I wrote when I was at Control Data was a PWR simulator.  I converted an old Fortran-IV program to run in TUTOR on the PLATO system.  Interestingly enough, there is a PLATO emulator (see: cyber1.org) up and running and my old program is on it!  It's a hoot to see a <gasp> 40+ year old program still working.  Heck, it even survived Y2K.

GcB

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>
> You misconstrue my point.
>>
> Sorry Gary I was just commenting on the environmental impact 
> statements
stupidity, not your comment. And of all the complaints that plant got over the years not one objected to having to breath Ra-226.

I agree with your comments. My theory on why the environmental mob objects to nuke plants is this: back in the 1960's the nascent environmental movement merged with the insane "NO NUKES" mob to form the modern group.
Thus that antinuke dogma was engraved on the shrunken heart of those people never to be removed by any logical argument.

I was a reactor operator and health physics tech in the Navy by the way.
While I was out of the USN in environmental engineering school I had a brush with the Sierra Club way of thinking and tactics. One of my Profs was a local leader. So I got a feel for the way they do things.

BK

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
Edmund Burke

J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:01 AM gary brown <gbrown at catspaw-minerals.com>
wrote:

> You misconstrue my point.  All I'm saying is that if there IS some 
> sort of limit on allowable radiation, as with nuke plants, then those 
> same restrictions should apply to coal plants.  In both cases the 
> radiation release is small.  With nukes, I'd venture (Watch me wave my 
> arms in the air!  Pulling numbers out of  the ether!) that the TOTAL 
> environmental impact based on mining disturbance and waste disposal is 
> a LOT smaller than with coal.  For example, the amount of land that 
> needs to be disturbed to produce 1 megawatt hour of electricity is smaller with nukes.
>
> GcB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rockhounds <rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com> On Behalf 
> Of J Bryan Kramer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 8:50 PM
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>
> I recall reading the environmental impact statement for one of the 
> coal fired plants I worked at. And as you say they predicted something 
> like 1.2 'excess deaths' from the isotopes out the stack and not one 
> from the coal burning itself. Total BS of course since no one knows 
> what a few extra mrem will do to the average person. There are 
> competing theories. The one that claims there is no safe level of 
> radiation is silly hogwash. There is no toxin with no known safe level.
> If yoiu worry about things like that try finding out what a chest 
> X-Ray dosage is or if you want to be really alarmed check out cat 
> scans. That info is rather hard to find and the guys giving you an 
> X-Ray are apparently trained to claim they don't know. At least I 
> never found one who would admit knowing the numbers.
>
> BK
>
> “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall 
> one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
> Edmund Burke
>
> J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 9:18 PM Tim Fisher <nospam at orerockon.com> wrote:
>
> > Now you tell me, I have scrounged around in abandoned coal mine 
> > dumps in WY for fossils lol.
> >
> > Tim Fisher
> > Http://OreRockOn.com
> > Email nospam at orerockon.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] 
> > On Behalf Of gary brown
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:25 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] Uranium Mineralization of Fossil Wood.
> >
> > When people bitch and moan about nuclear plants I would always point 
> > out that coal plants that burned Wyoming (and other western) coal 
> > were release a LOT more nuclides into the air than nuclear power 
> > plants.  I can remember going out on field trips from SD Tech back 
> > in the early 70's seeing uranium salts intimately  associated with coal seams.
> > Burn the coal and the nasty stuff goes right out the stack...even 
> > after scrubbing out most of the particulates.  Nuclear plants have 
> > really strict emission guidelines.
> >
> > GcB
> >
> > -------- Original message --------From: Paul <etchplain at att.net> Date:
> > 4/14/20  7:27 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Rockhound List 
> > <rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com> Subject: [Rockhounds] Uranium 
> > Mineralization of Fossil Wood. Mustoe, G.E., 2020. Uranium 
> > Mineralizationof Fossil Wood. Geosciences (Switzerland)
> > 10(4):1-25
> > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340609903_Uranium_Mineral
> > ization_of_Fossil_Woodhttps://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/10/4/133Yours,P
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