[Rockhounds] Minerals and climate change (slightly OT)

[Axel Emmermann]

Yours is a non-mineralogical reply.
It' s political and that's not what I intended. But still, I'll try to reply without raising any adrenaline levels:

Personally: I believe that Hayek is seriously filibustering. 
This is a case of burying reason in words of 20$ apiece, which makes Hayek just an eloquent fool.
In all honesty: there's more than 7.000.000.000 people on this planet. If the report of the Club of Rome is even wrong with a factor of 1000, theirs is still too much people living on it. 
90 % of all wealth is owned by 1 % of the population. That 1% contains also the policymakers. The only "growth" possible is that less than 1% will own more than 90 %.
We're doomed, yep, we're doomed.
BTW: 90 % of all scientists are now saying that climate change is real and that humans are causing it.  

Axel  


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Van: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] Namens J Bryan Kramer
Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2017 17:16
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Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] was: New "Energy Miracle" substance - NOW: Minerals and climate change

Hayek addressed this nihilistic theory:

"It is worth our while to consider for a moment what would happen if only what was agreed to be the best available knowledge were to be used in all action. If all at­tempts that seemed wasteful in the light of generally accepted knowl­edge were prohibited and only such questions asked, or such experi­ments tried, as seemed significant in the light of ruling opinion, man­kind might well reach a point where its knowledge enabled it to predict the consequences of all con­ventional actions and to avoid all disappointment or failure. Man would then seem to have subjected his surroundings to his reason, for he would attempt only those things which were totally predictable in their results (emphasis added). We might conceive of a civilization coming to a stand­still, not because the possibilities of further growth had been ex­hausted, but because man had suc­ceeded in so completely subjecting all his actions and his immediate surroundings to his existing state of knowledge that there would be no occasion for new knowledge to appear. ...

In the past, the spontane­ous forces of growth, however much restricted, could usually still assert themselves against the or­ganized coercion of the state. With the technological means of control now at the disposal of government, it is not certain that such assertion is still possible; at any rate, it may soon become impossible. We are not far from the point where the deliberately organized forces of society may destroy those spon­taneous forces which have made advance possible."

BK


"You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality"
 – Ayn Rand

J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
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