[Rockhounds] Terraforming Mars might be impossible? for now

Axel Emmermann axel.emmermann at telenet.be
Mon Mar 16 06:31:10 PDT 2020


The Puppeteers... Isn't that Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle????

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Van: Rockhounds <rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com> Namens J Bryan Kramer
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Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] Terraforming Mars might be impossible? for now

If you want asteroid hard sf then the Troy Rising series is what you are looking for by John Ringo. The protagonist drills a hole into the center of a metallic asteroid, stuffs the hole full of cometary ice, and plugs the hole. Then uses a lot of space mirrors to heat the rotating stuffed asteroid to high temps, making the metal plastic and converting the ice to very high pressure steam which expands the asteroid into a hollow body. At least that is how I recall it, I may have some of the details wrong.

And that is just part of the action, I wish he'd write more books in that world by Ringo has so many books in the air at one times I'm not expecting it.

And all this is funded by maple syrup sales, which I won't say more about not to spoil the fun.

As for the Ring World it's hard to imagine how they'll pull it off especially the Puppeteers.

BK

BK

“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
Edmund Burke

J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 7:23 PM Tim Fisher <nospam at orerockon.com> wrote:

> Asteroids are definitely a fixture of his Known World novels but I 
> read them so long ago I can't recall if he had people living inside a 
> hollowed out one. I read that the Ringworld series is being made into 
> a movie. All I can say is they better get it right! Or else!
>
> Tim Fisher
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>
> I saw The Expanse... except for the ghost thing and the Blue Stuff I 
> found it an excellent paradigm. This is really what mining will look 
> like in maybe 50 years...
> I believe that we're looking for a novel by Larry Niven... Hollowed 
> out asteroids figurate in a few of his creations, don't they?
>
> Axel
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> Bryan Kramer
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> now
>
> I'll look for, is mostly set ar, no surprise I haven't seen it. That 
> author is unknown.
>
> Of course the current SF hit, the Expanse is mostly set around an 
> asteroid belt civilization.
>
> BK
>
> “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall 
> one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” is 
> mostly set around a Edmund Burke
>
> J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 4:39 PM Alan Silverstein <ajs at silgro.com> wrote:
>
> > > I missed the that sf story you refer to Alan, I'll have to see if 
> > > I can find it.
> >
> > I just did a little hunting but no joy, although there's an amazing 
> > Wikipedia cluster of pages around fiction involving asteroids!  I 
> > vaguely recall maybe it had something to do with getting one 
> > asteroid into Earth orbit to capture (internally) a small black hole 
> > that had dropped into the planet and was orbiting through it, wreaking havoc.
> >
> > I did find this webpage about "asteroid billiards", albeit not the 
> > same core concept:
> >
> >
> > https://www.space.com/41592-asteroid-billiards-smashing-dangerous-sp
> > ac
> > e-rocks.html
> >
> > You got me hunting further, and...  Aha!  Maybe it was "The Doomsday 
> > Effect", 1986, by Thomas T Thomas; although I can't prove it's the 
> > right one from the abstract, nor from the Amazon free-view pages 
> > (early in the story).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alan Silverstein
> >
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