[Rockhounds] Number of contactable alien civilisations estimated at 36

[Axel Emmermann]

I know a civil engineer who claims that spaceflight is impossible and the whole space program is a hoax because the earth's thermosphere (between mesosphere and exosphere) has a temperature of 1.200 to 2.000° C and rockets would melt upon entering it.
There are also a number of people who claim that the earth is flat.
Some individuals refuse vaccination for a number of reasons... it's a choice and with some luck a Darwinist solution to that problem.
Whether one listens to the ill informed is a matter of free choice. 

If you run a slaughterhouse, you will not adhere to the belief that pigs are smart and cuddly animals that are actually good pets. It's one's position in life which makes one take a standpoint in animal intelligence. 

Axel

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Van: Rockhounds <rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com> Namens J Bryan Kramer
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Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] Number of contactable alien civilisations estimated at 36

And here is a guest theoretical physicist's opinion:

>
> Last night, I received a press release with a highly provocative 
> title,
New Calculations Hint There Could Be at Least 36 Alien Civilisations in Our GalaxyExcellent. So science has now determined that there's not just a single ET in the Milky Way but at least 36 of them. We could call them JanuaryA... up to DecemberC. ;-) But is the statement true? And is it scientifically justified? The answer to the first question is "probably not", the answer to the latter question is "certainly not". And the precision with which these people claim to have calculated "the number of ET civilizations" (36) is truly laughable. Even children must be able to see that it's just nonsense. These day, I find it obvious that this "discipline" – whose mandatory conclusion "we are surrounded by many ETs" – is a canonical example (and possibly the ultimate cradle) of the postmodern pseudoscience.

<
https://motls.blogspot.com/2020/06/zero-is-still-most-likely-number-of-ets.html
>
Motl is a Czech physicist with strong opinions that I agree with sometimes.

BK


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On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:56 PM J Bryan Kramer <codeburner at gmail.com> wrote:

> [Axel] Now you're discarding all forms of intelligence that aren't human.
>>
>
> So Flipper is a math wiz? As I said let's see him do some advanced 
> math proofs. Personally I do not believe any of these animal ability reports.
> The authors all have a strong profit motive to inflate whatever minor 
> discoveries that they THINK that they have made.
>
> BK
>
> “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall 
> one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.”
> Edmund Burke
>
> J Bryan Krämer       North Florida, USA
> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:22 AM Axel Emmermann 
> <axel.emmermann at telenet.be>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Something like 60 to 80% of psychological articles cannot be reproduced.
>> And then there is the profit motive on the part of researchers, need 
>> more grants. So when I see a dolphin expound on the fundamental law 
>> of Calculus then I'll consider it to be sentient.
>>
>> [Axel] Now you're discarding all forms of intelligence that aren't human.
>> https://www.seeker.com/dolphins-may-be-math-geniuses-1765864308.html
>>
>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/201103/do-dogs-
>> know-mathematics
>>
>>
>>
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