[Rockhounds] was: New "Energy Miracle" substance - NOW: Minerals and climate change

Mon May 22 08:49:35 PDT 2017

Axel,

Thanks, and I'll make the Facebook post public.

Al

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] On
> Behalf Of Axel Emmermann
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:37 AM
> To: 'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors'
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> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] was: New "Energy Miracle" substance - NOW:
> Minerals and climate change
> 
> Absolutely Albert, if you think there's enough logic there to make a
> difference 😉
> Please do.
> Let me know when and where, will you?
> 
> Best regards
> Axel
> 
> 
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] Namens
> Albert McCann
> Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2017 16:50
> Aan: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors
> <rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com>
> Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] was: New "Energy Miracle" substance - NOW:
> Minerals and climate change
> 
> Axel,
> 
> May I have permission to post this on my Facebook page for the few family
> and friends I have?
> 
> There are both believers and deniers :-)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com] On
> > Behalf Of Axel Emmermann
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:16 AM
> > To: 'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors'
> > <rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com>
> > Subject: [Rockhounds] was: New "Energy Miracle" substance - NOW:
> > Minerals and climate change
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > First a word of caution: it is NOT my intention to start a "flame".
> > Should you feel that your heart rate and blood pressure are rising in
> > the cause of this discussion, please do not engage in it 😉 I just
> > think that there is room for debate and minerals can be VERY useful in
> > our attempts to push back the ill effects of  industry.
> >
> > My first point to be made is this:
> > 	If you consider the future, only one of two opinions can be correct
> > (for the greater part, and grossly generalizing)
> > 1) the believers
> > 2) the deniers
> >
> > Case 1:
> > a) If the believers are right and their opinion prevails in global
> > policy making IN TIME, they will have saved the human race (or will
> > have bought time to endeavor in attempts to reverse greenhouse effects).
> > b) If they are proven to be wrong... ok, they will have set back
> > economic growth somewhat and they'll be the laughing stock of all
> > entrepreneurs and politicians for the next few hundred years.
> >
> > Case 2:
> > a) If the deniers are right: see case 1b
> > b) If the deniers are wrong and their opinion prevails in global
> > policy making we'll have won the prize for the "dumbest creature on
> earth" .
> > We'll be our own Chicxulub and follow the dodo and the dinos into
> > oblivion.
> >
> > Completely devoid of emotion, this summarizes the possibilities.
> > There may be some discussion about time frames and such but eventually
> > it boils down to this.
> > Now: is there an option that we absolutely don't want to see realized?
> >
> > Lithium IS the better element when it comes to storing energy in
> batterie.
> > However: HUGE economic interest are sitting in already established
> > manganese mines (ye olde stuff). Lithium will struggle upstream like a
> > salmon.
> > The same is true for thorium. Nuclear reactors that "burn" thorium are
> > much safer than uranium fission reactors. They simply cannot melt-down
> > and the radioactivity of their waste products cools much quicker than
> > those of uranium. They are not being built because thorium cannot be
> > made into "weapon-grade" and vast financial interests are put into
> > exploiting uranium deposits.
> > Same is true for mercury in various applications...
> >
> > Cheers
> > Axel
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Rockhounds [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at rockhounds.drizzle.com]
> > Namens Mike Flannigan
> > Verzonden: zondag 21 mei 2017 23:52
> > Aan: rockhounds at rockhounds.drizzle.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] New "Energy Miracle" substance
> >
> >
> > Hogwash.  Fair warning - I am a denier (oh, my), even though I don't
> > deny that we are experiencing global warming, as we have for the last
> > ~16,000 years.  Personally I think global warming is good, but I admit
> > I may be wrong about that.  Regardless, the people who are pushing the
> > global warming spectacle would consider me a denier.
> >
> > If this Lithium Carbonate improves the performance of batteries, that
> > could be a huge benefit to people.  If it actually produces or
> > converts electricity or energy, please provide the reaction used and
> > the exothermic KW per lb or joules per kg or But per lb, or whatever
> > it actually produces (or converts).
> >
> > People also exalt the great "energy producing" potential of fuel cells.
> > Nope, they just convert energy that is already there.
> > Almost at the same efficiency as burning hydrocarbons, but not quite.
> > But they keep trying.
> >
> > Thanks for keeping us informed Larry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > Houston, TX
> > 24 ft above sea level
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/21/2017 2:00 PM, rockhounds-request at rockhounds.drizzle.com wrote:
> > > There has been quite a bit of stir in the energy futures stock
> > > market
> > these days, pushing a ?revolutionary? new energy source, which is
> > touted to replace oil, gas, etc. as a new ?super fuel? in the future.
> > There is a lot of hype by these ?Penny Stock? pushers, who do not
> > disclose what exactly this fuel is.
> > >
> > > By digging around (no pun intended), on the Web, and reading the
> > technical papers available, I personally believe that this new energy
> > source is Lithium Carbonate, with a much higher ability to produce
> > energy than the present pegmatitic lithium compounds.
> > >
> > > The ore is found in brines, in deep deposits of old marine
> > > sediments,
> > similar to the Trona deposits  in California. Not much for a mineral
> > collector to get excited about here, unlike holding specimens of
> > lepidolite, lithiophyllite, spodumene, etc., that we can free from
> > pegmatites.
> > >
> > > But, from a mineralogists point of view, this material, if it lives
> > > up
> > to the hype, will be a new, important raw material for the next
> > generation.
> > >
> > > List member geologists or chemists, please correct any misstatements
> > > I
> > put forth here?.there is a lot of speculation, and not a lot of hard
> > facts on this subject as yet.
> > >
> > > Larry Rush
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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